(Begin VT)
TONY SIRICO (09:22:15): You people don`t have any idea how great it was to work with James Gandolfini. He was the best.
HARRY SMITH (09:22:19): Steven, I have a sense you want to talk about Mister Gandolfini.
STEVEN VAN ZANDT (09:22:25): As I`ve said a thousand times, you know, you do a scene with Jimmy Gandolfini, you walk away a better actor. This was the greatest acting school one could imagine.
EDIE FALCO (09:22:34): It`s very unusual that he`s not here. And I don`t often feel his absence the way I do right now.
HARRY SMITH (09:22:41): Michael, talk to me about scenes you did with James Gandolfini. Do you have a favorite moment on screen with him?
MICHAEL IMPERIOLI (09:22:49): Um, yeah, I do.
HARRY SMITH (09:22:51): You can say it.
MICHAEL IMPERIOLI (09:22:52): So we had to throw Joey`s-- Joe Pan`s body off the cliff and then they were going to light the whole park. It took hours. So we were in the trailer and had a drink, which was a full bottle of wild turkey. By the time, I was ready to shoot, the bottle was empty. So they had to chain me and Jim`s ankles to trees because they were afraid we were going to fall off the cliff. Him and I walked to the edge and throw the thing off the cliff, and nobody fell.
HARRY SMITH (09:23:27): Do you have a favorite that you did with Jim?
JAMIE-LYNN SIGLER (09:23:29): I think when we did the college episode.
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JAMIE-LYNN SIGLER (09:23:36): And I remember him saying to me just-- he could tell I was nervous. And he said just look in my eyes and trust me. And it was everything. And I`ve taken that with me just in my life.
DOMINIC CHIANESE (09:23:47): I remember when he-- on the golf course, when he insulted me, everybody cracked up except me, my character. He was great. And then he made me cry when he said-- I can`t even say it. He said don`t you love me?
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DOMINIC CHIANESE (09:24:10): It`s more sweet than bitter.
ROBERT ILER (09:24:14): Sopranos might be the only relationship in my whole life where I look back and I can`t find a bad memory. We were talking the other day about when we used to go to the Emmys and this, like I don`t know how many awards we won. I don`t even remember which times we won, we lost. I just knew, like, oh, we were all going.
JAMIE-LYNN SIGLER (09:24:31): We showed up at the-- our first Emmys in a bus. We took a tour bus, all of us together.
ROBERT ILER (09:24:36): Yeah.
JAMIE-LYNN SIGLER (09:24:36): That`s amazing.
MICHAEL IMPERIOLI (09:24:37): And we lost best show and we all walked out.
STEVEN VAN ZANDT (09:24:43): We were pissed off.
KATHRINE NARDUCCI (09:24:44): That`s when I realized how big the show was. And when we got to the award show, I`ll never forget, when we got out of the car, I remember seeing Brad Pitt, all these big people, and they wanted to meet us. And I went, holy, this show is big. Wow.
HARRY SMITH (09:25:04): What people seem to be obsessed with is the last episode.
JAMIE-LYNN SIGLER (09:25:09): By the way, it`s very hard to park badly. I will say that.
HARRY SMITH (09:25:14): So you`re a good parallel parker?
JAMIE-LYNN SIGLER (09:25:16): I am a very good parallel parker.
HARRY SMITH (09:25:18): The music is playing, Don`t Stop Believing, in the background. Did you know he was going to cut it where he cut it?
EDIE FALCO (09:25:25): I never knew what was going on. That`s the truth. I really-- I didn`t. And I didn`t know what it meant, if it meant anything.
JOHN VENTIMIGLIA (09:25:36): People thought their cat pulled the plug out of the wall.
EDIE FALCO (09:25:39): That`s right.
JOHN VENTIMIGLIA (09:25:39): I mean, that`s where it went.
KATHRINE NARDUCCI (09:25:40): No, they thought the cable went down.
EDIE FALCO (09:25:42): That`s right.
HARRY SMITH (09:25:42): Was being on the show a blessing or a curse?
LORRAINE BRACCO (09:25:47): A blessing.
TONY SIRICO (09:25:48): Blessing.
EDIE FALCO (09:25:48): There`s no way it couldn`t be a blessing.
LORRAINE BRACCO (09:25:49): Blessing. EDIE FALCO (09:25:50): I mean, how could one look at this as anything but a blessing? We`re part of a cultural moment. Whether or not we knew it at the time, I certainly didn`t. But in retrospect, I mean, you can die and say you were a part of this show that people talked about for a long time.
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CRAIG MELVIN (09:26:11): Wow.
HARRY SMITH (09:26:11): You know, they talk about losing that first year, but the show went on to win twenty-one Emmys, five Golden Globes. One of the other good stories is they were at the Emmys one year and the best actor goes to James. And they were all getting ready to stand up to applaud for James Gandolfini. James Spader.
DYLAN DREYER (09:26:29): Oh.
HARRY SMITH (09:26:29): They were like, what, what?
AL ROKER (09:26:31): Oh, man. But what`s so amazing is that even after all this time, in his loss, how much his presence was part of that day.
HARRY SMITH (09:26:39): David Chase, at one point, said if there is no James Gandolfini, how do I have a Tony Soprano?
CRAIG MELVIN (09:26:44): Yeah.
HARRY SMITH (09:26:45): If I don`t have Tony Soprano, how does the show exist? He was the magnet that pulled all those crazy parts together because Chase was also a guy who worked his whole life in TV, hated TV.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:26:56): Huh. HARRY SMITH (09:26:56): This was an anti-television television show, which made it so good.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:27:00): Soprano`s charact-- Tony Soprano`s character was, I would argue, one of the first in that genre where you had a guy who was despicable on so many levels.
AL ROKER (09:27:09): Yeah.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:27:09): He was a-- he was a mob thug, he was a killer, but he was complicated. He was depressed. He was anxious. It was just-- and so from week to week, you`re like, God, I really-- I hate Tony Soprano. The next week, you`re like, I love Tony Soprano.
DYLAN DREYER (09:27:21): Yeah.
HARRY SMITH (09:27:22): Unbelievably profane show.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:27:24): Yes.
HARRY SMITH (09:27:24): Unbelievably violent show. It was all this ambiguity, right?
CRAIG MELVIN (09:27:29): Yeah.
HARRY SMITH (09:27:29): And television isn`t supposed to be that traditionally. Until now, we`ve got it all over the place. I was there-- what`s the show with the meth guy in New Mexico?
AL ROKER (09:27:39): Oh, Breaking Bad.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:27:40): Breaking Bad.
HARRY SMITH (09:27:40): How does Breaking Bad exist without Tony Soprano?
CRAIG MELVIN (09:27:42): Without Tony Soprano.
AL ROKER (09:27:43): Absolutely.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:27:43): Yeah.
DYLAN DREYER (09:27:43): Because he can take it that far. What is your favorite scene?
HARRY SMITH (09:27:47): There is-- you know what? I loved all the little tiny stuff that was in the last episode, for instance, where there`s this big secret meeting and they go into the giant warehouse.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:27:55): Yes.
HARRY SMITH (09:27:56): And they`re sitting down. It`s freezing cold. And somebody says, anybody want water?
CRAIG MELVIN (09:28:00): That`s right.
HARRY SMITH (09:28:01): Like, how does that make any sense in such a non- sequitur?
AL ROKER (09:28:04): Yeah. For me, it was that weird scene where Tony has an upset stomach. He`s hallucinating. And Vincent Pastore`s character is talking to him as a fish.
HARRY SMITH (09:28:14): In a fish, exactly. There was a-- there was a note in one of the pieces I read that one of the HBO executives sort of questioned something that Chase was doing at some point. And it was just all the more reason to double down, right?
DYLAN DREYER (09:28:26): Yeah.
HARRY SMITH (09:28:27): The suits don`t get to touch this show.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:28:29): Harry Smith, that was-- that was fantastic.
HARRY SMITH (09:28:31): Very fabulous people.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:28:31): Of all of our cast reunions, that may very well be my favorite. Thank you. By the way, you can see Harry`s full interview with the cast on our website, today.com. We`ll be right back.
DYLAN DREYER (09:28:43): Still to come, for years, she hid a medical mystery.
KARISSA PUKAS (09:28:47): I was continuously getting chronically more and more sick.
DYLAN DREYER (09:28:51): How this YouTube star says her followers helped figure out the cause.
(09:28:55): Plus--
NATALIE ASATRYAN (09:28:56): And inhale up to cobra.
DYLAN DREYER (09:28:57): --find your inner Zen with the help of an amazing kid who`s making yoga history.
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AL ROKER (09:33:11): And welcome back. Karissa Pukas is a YouTube star with more than seven hundred thousand followers.
DYLAN DREYER (09:33:17): And when she came down with a mystery illness, she says some of the loyal fans helped figure out the cause.
(Begin VT)
KARISSA PUKAS (09:33:25): What is good, my YouTube friends?
DYLAN DREYER (09:33:26): This is twenty-seven-year-old Karissa Pukas, who posts her take on everything from fashion to fitness to food on her own YouTube channel. Last year, Karissa opened up to her fans about some personal health challenges she was having.
KARISSA PUKAS (09:33:40): I was continuously getting chronically more and more sick regardless of how healthy I was living. It made absolutely no sense.
(09:33:47): So the consultation went awesome.
DYLAN DREYER (09:33:51): When Karissa was twenty-two years old, she had breast implant surgery.
KARISSA PUKAS (09:33:55): Incision would be underneath the fold in my boob, and that`s pretty common, especially for the type of implant that I wanted as well as the look that I wanted.
DYLAN DREYER (09:34:03): What she wanted was to transform her B-cup to a DD using implants. The procedure was done by a surgeon in Australia where she lived at the time.
KARISSA PUKAS (09:34:13): I`m ready for surgery. So I will see you guys on the other side.
(09:34:16): Hi, everybody. I am out of surgery.
DYLAN DREYER (09:34:19): Karissa continued to document her recovery. And about a month after surgery, she returned to her regular activities. But six months later, she said she began to experience symptoms such as anxiety, fatigue, body odor and food intolerances. Visits to local health clinics seemed to offer no definitive answers to her medical mystery though one doctor diagnosed her with situational depression, something Karissa says she had never experienced before.
KARISSA PUKAS (09:34:47): In April, I believe, of 2017, I did a gut health video, letting you guys in at a really vulnerable moment in my life. I had a few comments saying, have you ever considered breast implant illness? And I looked into it. And what I found absolutely changed my life.
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DYLAN DREYER (09:35:06): And Karissa joins us now. It`s nice seeing you here healthy and happy. This is the ultimate story of being your own advocate. You knew something was wrong and nobody was diagnosing it correctly. What all were your symptoms?
KARISSA PUKAS (Says Breast Implants Made Her Sick) (09:35:19): I was having a wild range of symptoms. First, started off with a lot of fatigue and a lot of anxiety that I never previously had and it was very overwhelming, especially living overseas, away from my family. I didn`t really have the support. Started into having really bad food intolerances. I was having bowl movements eight to ten times a day.
DYLAN DREYER (09:35:38): Wow.
KARISSA PUKAS (09:35:38): My joint pain was so uncontrollable it would wake me up in the middle of the night. I had awful smelling sweat, even after showering. It was just wrong. Something was wrong, but no one was listening.
AL ROKER (09:35:49): And so when did it start to dawn on you that it could be your implants?
KARISSA PUKAS (09:35:54): It was because of the video that I put out. And I received comments from different followers saying, have you ever considered it could potentially be breast implant illness? I`d never heard of it. And I almost had an ego response as my first response because you`re just like, go away, like it`s not my boobs. Like, it`s fine. It`s never been that. And the more I started reading into it and the more women`s stories that I uncovered, it was the same symptoms. It could not be any more the exact same thing that I was going through so.
DYLAN DREYER (09:36:22): Did you-- did you find a doctor who said, yes, this is definitely what`s causing it, and here`s why? Or did you say, let`s get these out of me, I want to start fresh?
KARISSA PUKAS (09:36:29): There is no doctor that will definitively say that breast implant illness is a medically recognized problem, which is unbelievable to me, with the amount of women that have struggled with the exact same problem.
AL ROKER (09:36:39): So once you realized this, how quickly did you move to get your implants removed?
KARISSA PUKAS (09:36:45): I realized in about-- I put the video out in probably April 2017 and then I truly believed it was that in about July 2017. And then I wasn`t able to book in and get my surgery until the following April, so this past April which was hard because you have that anxiety the whole time thinking about, like, I know these objects inside of me are making me sick. I swear it has to be this. There`s nothing else that makes sense.
DYLAN DREYER (09:37:09): And how quickly after they were removed did you start feeling like yourself again?
KARISSA PUKAS (09:37:13): It was almost immediate.
DYLAN DREYER (09:37:14): Really?
KARISSA PUKAS (09:37:14): It was so shocking. I had my family there. And when I was wheeled out of surgery, I had more color in my face than when I- - it`s unbelievable.
AL ROKER (09:37:20): You had pictures of that before you went in and then after. And it really is remarkable. Hold on. I think we`re going to get that right now.
KARISSA PUKAS (09:37:28): It was a night and day difference. I couldn`t believe it.
DYLAN DREYER (09:37:31): Wow. KARISSA PUKAS (09:37:32): But I started feeling better right away. I still had slight persistent gut troubles, as gut things do take a while to balance out. But nine months out, I am a hundred percent symptom free. And I`m so, so grateful. It`s given me my life back.
DYLAN DREYER (09:37:44): And no signs of depression or any none of that?
KARISSA PUKAS (09:37:46): No.
DYLAN DREYER (09:37:47): All of that is just--
KARISSA PUKAS (09:37:48): Completely gone.
DYLAN DREYER (09:37:48): Wow.
AL ROKER (09:37:49): What`s your message to other young women who are thinking about doing this, doing implants, or other body-altering surgeries? What`s your message to them?
KARISSA PUKAS (09:37:58): You know, I`m not anti-plastic surgery, but I am absolutely pro-information. And I feel that women are getting the short end of the stick. It`s not fair for the manufacturers to be doing these studies rather than a third party. It`s like asking the tobacco industry to self- regulate. How would that be safe for anyone? It`s not.
DYLAN DREYER (09:38:17): Right.
KARISSA PUKAS (09:38:17): And that`s the current situation that we`re in. And I don`t think that that is serving anyone at this point.
DYLAN DREYER (09:38:23): Well, the American Society of Plastic Surgeons estimates that more than three hundred thousand women underwent breast augmentation last year. And now, the FDA is creating a new registry to try and better understand the long-term impact. I mean, that could take a very long time.
KARISSA PUKAS (09:38:38): That`s the problem. And I think up until this point, too, it`s all been, you have to tell your doctor. And that`s the only way that they would know. But the doctors don`t have to then pass it on to any third party.
AL ROKER (09:38:49): Yeah.
KARISSA PUKAS (09:38:50): So they can just internalize it, never say a thing, and the patient goes home, wondering why they`re still sick. They never get answers.
DYLAN DREYER (09:38:54): Wow.
KARISSA PUKAS (09:38:54): I would have never found out this is what it was if it wasn`t for other women in the community sharing their stories. I`m so, so grateful.
DYLAN DREYER (09:39:01): Wow. You look amazing. I`m so glad your health is back.
KARISSA PUKAS (09:39:04): Thank you.
DYLAN DREYER (09:39:04): We did reach out to the American Society of Plastic Surgeons for reaction to Karissa`s story.
AL ROKER (09:39:09): And we`ve received a statement that reads, in part, ".decades of research show no causal relationship between breast implants and autoimmune diseases. No medical device is without risks, and all patients should consult their plastic surgeon if they experience a change in health."
DYLAN DREYER (09:39:28): But thank you very much for--
KARISSA PUKAS (09:39:29): Thank you.
AL ROKER (09:39:29): You want to say one thing?
DYLAN DREYER (09:39:30): Yeah.
KARISSA PUKAS (09:39:30): I was just going to say, would you rather trust women that have been through it or somebody that`s selling you a product?
DYLAN DREYER (09:39:37): It`s a good question. Karissa, thank you so much for sharing your story.
KARISSA PUKAS (09:39:40): Thank you for having me. I really appreciate this platform. And so many women do, too. If women are looking for more information on this, please check out the Facebook support groups. There are breast implant illness support groups with a ton of information in the files section. It is of the utmost importance that we share this because other women will know and find their way.
AL ROKER (09:39:57): Great information.
DYLAN DREYER (09:39:57): Absolutely. So important. Thanks so much. We`ll be right back.
(09:40:03): Tomorrow, Spike Lee is here to talk about BlacKkKlansman, his hit movie that`s getting awards show buzz.
(09:40:09): But first, Patrick Warburton on the mind-bending final season of his show, A Series of Unfortunate Events.
(ANNOUNCEMENTS)
CRAIG MELVIN (09:44:20): Patrick Warburton is a talented and very funny actor. He`s made us laugh with roles like that iconic Puddy on Seinfeld where he played Elaine`s not so smart boyfriend.
DYLAN DREYER (09:44:28): And these days, you can catch him on the third and final season of the Netflix show, A Series of Unfortunate Events.
AL ROKER (09:44:33): He plays the role of Lemony Snicket, the narrator who becomes part of the story. Patrick, good to see you.
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:44:39): Good to see you.
AL ROKER (09:44:40): And finally, the third season, you get to be in the-- we actually get to see you and you interact with the other characters.
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:44:47): Yes. It goes back in time, and they put wigs on me and all kinds of things, yeah. It was great. It was a wonderful experience.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:44:57): How is this role different from some of your others?
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:44:59): Well, Puddy wasn`t the sharpest tool in the shed. You know what I`m saying? You know, there have been a lot of, like, big and fun characters, like The Tick, or I`ve done some things that are a little bit more cerebral. But, you know, Lemony is very thoughtful and well-spoken and very articulate. He`s sort of like an ineffectual guardian angel. He`s always there but he doesn`t really get anything done.
DYLAN DREYER (09:45:25): So people who aren`t that familiar with the series, kind of take us back to how it all began. It`s all based on a book.
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:45:32): It`s based on a series of books, thirteen books by Daniel Handler. And the books were very well-read worldwide, some are between seventy and hundred million of this book series were sold. They made a movie years ago.
AL ROKER (09:45:47): Right, Jim Carrey.
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:45:49): Yeah.
DYLAN DREYER (09:45:49): Oh, yeah.
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:45:50): And one of the issues with that was that they tried to sandwich three books into one movie, and it wasn`t cohesive. And the great thing about the series that we take each book, turn it into two episodes that are both short-- about an hour. So it`s like a movie per book. And it seems to-- that format seems to work well. Bill Welch did all of our sets, who does all Tim Burton`s sets, and Barry works with them ever year.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:46:13): Beautiful sets.
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:46:14): Yeah.
AL ROKER (09:46:15): Did your kids read these books?
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:46:16): They didn`t. My eldest son, he-- he`s sort of-- you know, he would regulate everything, you know. So if he didn`t read it, the other kids didn`t. But it`s like, what`s the premise? Oh, the parents die in a fire. That sounds really sad. No.
AL ROKER (09:46:30): No.
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:46:31): I`m not going to read this.
DYLAN DREYER (09:46:32): Not happening.
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:46:33): He was out.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:46:33): Your most famous role is probably still Puddy. And I think a lot of folks don`t realize you were only in nine episodes. Like it`s not like you were--
DYLAN DREYER (09:46:41): That always blows my mind.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:46:43): Because the show is on day and night, it seems like you were--
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:46:47): Yeah. No, it was great-- it was great to do nine episodes of a sitcom and get paid scale and be in trouble of being typecast rest of your life.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:46:58): It was a blessing and a curse?
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:46:59): It was a blessing and a curse. But it was much more of a blessing. It`s been so much fun. And, you know, you just have to go out and reinvent after. But it was really odd because I was barely there ever.
AL ROKER (09:47:11): Yeah.
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:47:12): And I would avoid Jerry.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:47:13): Why?
DYLAN DREYER (09:47:14): Why?
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:47:15): Well, he`s a very sweet and generous man, but I knew that I could do nothing but just-- I would do nothing but stick my foot in my mouth. So all you want to do, because you knew how special it was to be there, stage nine, CBS, Bradford, you wanted to get invited back.
AL ROKER (09:47:28): Yeah.
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:47:29): So, okay, well, if I bump into Jerry, I`ll say something stupid like, wow, I bet you, you never would have expected this, huh? Wow. Show is doing great. I wanted to hit my marks, get a laugh, get out and then have him go, hmm, I like that character. We`ll bring him back.
DYLAN DREYER (09:47:43): Yeah.
AL ROKER (09:47:44): Bring him back.
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:47:44): So, yeah.
AL ROKER (09:47:45): And you got a garage band now.
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:47:46): I have a garage band now, yeah.
DYLAN DREYER (09:47:48): What`s the name of your band?
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:47:50): Well, we`re Pearl Jam cover band. So The Bearded Pearl Clams. That`s the name of the band.
AL ROKER (09:47:56): Wow.
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:47:57): But I`m doing ridiculous things. I have turned into a kid. I`m reliving-- I`m mid-life crisis time. We just play-- I actually just-- I have a friend who is the lead singer of the band, Burn the Ballroom. His name is Adriel. And he goes, I wrote a song for you. I go, cool. So he came and we recorded it. And we actually-- it`s on-- I guess he just put it on a few days on Spotify.
AL ROKER (09:48:21): All right.
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:48:22): It`s on YouTube.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:48:23): All right.
DYLAN DREYER (09:48:23): That`s awesome.
AL ROKER (09:48:23): Patrick Warburton, thank you. Always great to see you.
PATRICK WARBURTON (09:48:26): Pleasure, yes.
AL ROKER (09:48:26): Season three of A Series of Unfortunate Events streaming now on Netflix. We`ll be right back.
DYLAN DREYER (09:48:34): Tomorrow, eat your way to a healthy gut. Joy Bauer with the superfoods to add to your diet starting today.
(09:48:40): But first, she`s not just teaching yoga.
NATALIE ASATRYAN (09:48:44): I always say that there`s no age limit for changing the world.
DYLAN DREYER (09:48:46): How this amazing kid is using her passion to do a lot of good.
(ANNOUNCEMENTS)
DYLAN DREYER (09:52:53): We are back now with an amazing kid who is one of the country`s youngest yogis.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:52:58): Savannah Sellers, host of NBC`s Snapchat show Stay Tuned, got a private lesson. It`s pretty cool.
SAVANNAH SELLERS (09:53:03): It is pretty cool. She`s just thirteen, but her mantra is, age is just a number.
(Begin VT)
SAVANNAH SELLERS (09:53:10): When most people take a yoga class, they don`t expect the instructor to look like this.
NATALIE ASATRYAN (09:53:15): I`m Natalie. I`m thirteen, and I`m a yoga teacher. Has anyone here done yoga before?
SAVANNAH SELLERS (09:53:20): I certainly didn`t when I hit the mats with her for a private lesson.
NATALIE ASATRYAN (09:53:23): And inhale up to cobra, keeping your elbows bent.
SAVANNAH SELLERS (09:53:26): Meet Natalie Asatryan, America`s youngest female certified yoga teacher.
NATALIE ASATRYAN (09:53:31): I feel like a lot of people come to the class to see if I even can do it. Let`s go see if this girl actually, like, knows what she`s doing.
SAVANNAH SELLERS (09:53:37): Natalie fell head over heels for yoga when she was just five years old. By age nine, Natalie decided she couldn`t wait to be a yoga teacher. But making it official at that age was no simple task.
NATALIE ASATRYAN (09:53:48): We were calling studio after studio. We would, like, find people online that might be able to do it. Everyone said no because they said I was too young.
SAVANNAH SELLERS (09:53:56): After three years of searching, Natalie finally found a studio willing to teach her.
NATALIE ASATRYAN (09:54:00): Yeah, it was a hard process. It`s like the two hundredth-hour class and it was like twelve-hour days for fourteen days straight. And then it was a whole bunch of, like, philosophy stuff thrown at you. And you had to learn about like chakras and yamas and niyamas and like pranayama and all that stuff.
SAVANNAH SELLERS (09:54:17): And you`re doing this with a bunch of adults.
NATALIE ASATRYAN (09:54:18): Yes, a whole bunch of adults. The youngest person there was like in her twenties, besides me.
SAVANNAH SELLERS (09:54:23): And you were twelve?
NATALIE ASATRYAN (09:54:24): Yes.
SAVANNAH SELLERS (09:54:26): Now, an official instructor, Natalie`s gained followers of all ages.
NATALIE ASATRYAN (09:54:30): Bring your arms to a cactus and go forward.
(09:54:32): One time when I was teaching in the senior center, this woman came up to me and she said that no other yoga class that she`d never been able to do the poses. And she came to me and said that this is the first day of yoga class she`s actually been able to, like, follow and really do. And she, like, thanked me for making it so accessible to her.
SAVANNAH SELLERS (09:54:48): Another one of Natalie`s senior fans just happens to be the world`s oldest yoga teacher, one hundred-year-old Tao Porchon-Lynch. The two first met on Lynch`s ninety-ninth birthday.
(09:54:59): So the youngest and the oldest yoga teachers together.
NATALIE ASATRYAN (09:55:01): Yeah.
SAVANNAH SELLERS (09:55:02): How cool was that?
NATALIE ASATRYAN (09:55:03): It was a really fun experience. She gave me a whole bunch of, like, inspirational quotes and a whole bunch of wisdom that can really help me.
SAVANNAH SELLERS (09:55:10): In turn, Natalie is using her gift to help others. All the proceeds from Natalie`s yoga classes go to help the Red Cross, victims of Hurricane Harvey, local firefighters, and even building a school in Kenya.
NATALIE ASATRYAN (09:55:23): I really want to give those kids the opportunity to go to school, too, because education is the great equalizer. Once everyone is informed and has an education, they can go off and do whatever they want.
SAVANNAH SELLERS (09:55:33): With wisdom beyond her thirteen years, Natalie has this message for other kids.
NATALIE ASATRYAN (09:55:37): I always say that there`s no age limit for changing the world. It doesn`t, like, have to be yoga. It doesn`t have to be donating to a school. They can, like, help out with the ocean. They can do whatever they love and help some place in the world with what they`re doing.
(End VT)
SAVANNAH SELLERS (09:55:49): Natalie tells me she still gets nervous before each class, but when she`s teaching, that all goes away.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:55:54): Great story.
DYLAN DREYER (09:55:54): I bet it does.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:55:55): Great story, Savannah.
SAVANNAH SELLERS (09:55:55): Thanks, guys.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:55:56): Thank you. By the way, you can catch Savannah on Stay Tuned every day on Snapchat and Instagram. We`ll be right back.
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AL ROKER (09:58:21): Hey, guys. Before we hand this over to you, tomorrow, we`ve got Spike Lee--
JENNA BUSH HAGER (09:58:24): Oh, awesome.
HODA KOTB (09:58:24): What?
AL ROKER (09:58:24): --to talk about BlacKkKlansman.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:58:25): It`s going to be cool.
DYLAN DREYER (09:58:25): And what do you guys have coming up?
HODA KOTB (09:58:27): Oh, we have Neil Patrick Harris.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (09:58:27): Neil Patrick Harris.
HODA KOTB (09:58:29): And?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (09:58:29): It`s Thursday, Ambush Makeovers.
DYLAN DREYER (09:58:32): Oh, I love those.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (09:58:32): Have you ever heard of it?
DYLAN DREYER (09:58:32): A few times.
HODA KOTB (09:58:33): It`s our favorite franchise.
CRAIG MELVIN (09:58:35): We`ll see you tomorrow. Have a great day. Have a great show.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (09:58:37): Oh, thank you.
HODA KOTB (09:58:37): Thank you. We will.
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HODA KOTB (10:00:01): Today on Thirst-Day Thursday, Emmy and Tony winner Neil Patrick Harris reveals why he`s having so much fun being bad.
(10:00:07): Then, two sisters make their Big Apple dreams come true with hot Ambush Makeovers.
(10:00:12): And a little Throwback Thursday pop culture fun when we have a ball with the Harlem Globetrotters.
KELLY CLARKSON (10:00:19): I mean literally, I get puppies and wine with y`all. I love y`all.
ANNOUNCER (10:00:22): From NBC News--
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HODA KOTB (10:00:24): What?
ANNOUNCER (10:00:25): --this is TODAY--
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HODA KOTB (10:00:30): Smile.
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ANNOUNCER (10:00:33): --live from Studio 1A in Rockefeller Plaza.
KATHIE LEE GIFFORD (10:00:36): How do we do it day after day?
HODA KOTB (10:00:36): How do we do it day after day?
(10:00:41): Yes, it has arrived. Thirst-Day Thursday is here. Friday is knocking on the door. January 10th. Jenna Bush Hager in for KLG, a little JBH love.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:00:51): I like this. Electric Avenue from--
HODA KOTB (10:00:53): I know.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:00:54): Three people clapped, thank you.
HODA KOTB (10:00:55): That`s right. We do-- see, you have a posse.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:00:59): Three people I really like--
HODA KOTB (10:01:00): That`s all that matters.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:01:01): --you know, and they seem to like me.
HODA KOTB (10:01:04): We-- no. Like is an understatement. There`s a lot of love here. That`s Electric Avenue by Eddy Grant, an old throwback because it is Throwback Thursday.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:01:11): Oh, yeah.
HODA KOTB (10:01:11): It is.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:01:12): Do you do anything to celebrate Throwback Thursday?
HODA KOTB (10:01:13): No, I don`t. I did-- I did, by the way, yesterday look back at Haley`s old pictures just for fun. I was just looking back. And you cannot believe when you think about how a child, like, grows over a couple years, you just freak out. Like I just-- I was-- I don`t remember the baby stage. Like, I don`t remember. It`s bizarre.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:01:33): You know, Mila showed me a picture this morning.
HODA KOTB (10:01:35): Yeah.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:01:36): It`s like her hair is long.
HODA KOTB (10:01:37): What happened?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:01:37): Her hair is long.
HODA KOTB (10:01:39): What is happening?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:01:39): Wait, what else? You posted a video.
HODA KOTB (10:01:41): What, what?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:01:42): And I was looking at Instagram of a song that she was dancing to.
HODA KOTB (10:01:45): Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She sang to--
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:01:48): The boxes?
HODA KOTB (10:01:48): --Chinese Boxes.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:01:49): Yes.
HODA KOTB (10:01:49): Chinese Boxes by Kim Richey.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:01:49): So she posted this and I was-- I was looking at it and Mila and Poppy heard the baby. And they said, oh, I want to see and it`s like Haley. And Poppy goes, Poppy`s dress.
HODA KOTB (10:02:00): Oh, she was wearing Poppy`s--
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:02:02): One of the hand-me-downs. I love a hand-me- down.
HODA KOTB (10:02:06): By the way--
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:02:07): But isn`t it weird that Poppy recognized it?
HODA KOTB (10:02:10): How did she remember?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:02:11): I don`t know.
HODA KOTB (10:02:11): By the way, here`s what I love about Jenna. She shows up with a grocery bag paper, pull off like-- they`re like one shoe in there, some clothes. And by the way--
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:02:19): Some of it`s good.
HODA KOTB (10:02:20): --Haley was styling.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:02:21): I tried to go through it to make sure--
HODA KOTB (10:02:22): I can`t believe that was your-- that was her dress.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:02:23): --that it`s not like--
HODA KOTB (10:02:24): How are those kiddos, by the way?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:02:25): --you know, soiled.
HODA KOTB (10:02:26): Your kids.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:02:27): My kids are-- my kids got in trouble for the first time, like, together. And I`m used to-- listen, I have a twin sister.
HODA KOTB (10:02:35): Yeah.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:02:35): That`s like as mischievous as it can get--
HODA KOTB (10:02:37): Yes, yes.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:02:37): --because you`re the same age. But Poppy and Mila, we had a darling babysitter who actually works here at NBC.
HODA KOTB (10:02:43): Okay.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:02:43): She`s from Texas. She`s very kind.
HODA KOTB (10:02:46): Yes.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:02:46): And I feel like they witnessed that kindness--
HODA KOTB (10:02:48): Yeah, yeah.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:02:49): --and they took advantage. So I was at a Teach for Uganda event my sister put on. And I was looking at my phone on the way out the door. And she said I`m so sorry. They have locked me out. They locked your door of your room. They`re in your room and they have locked me on the other side for forty-five minutes.
HODA KOTB (10:03:05): Oh. JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:03:05): Bad behavior. Forty-five minutes.
HODA KOTB (10:03:09): Your first reaction was what?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:03:10): Furious.
HODA KOTB (10:03:11): Okay, okay.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:03:12): Because I don`t want them to be disrespectful to a babysitter.
HODA KOTB (10:03:15): Right. So what did-- what--
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:03:16): So I called Henry and I`m like, how do we discipline?
HODA KOTB (10:03:19): Yes. What do we do? So how did you--
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:03:20): And Henry was like just don`t, you know, overreact. Take some deep breaths. So I got home, they were naked. They had makeup.
HODA KOTB (10:03:29): Naked in your room.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:03:30): They were naked running around the house. She finally got them out of the room because I put on speakerphone and I told them I was calling the police.
HODA KOTB (10:03:38): Wait. She held the speakerphone up to the door?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:03:39): That is not overreacting?
HODA KOTB (10:03:40): You-- what did you say?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:03:41): Because they locked the door. I said I`m going to call the police. Is that overreacting?
HODA KOTB (10:03:47): So then they unlocked it?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:03:48): So they unlocked, they came out. They were running around the house naked.
HODA KOTB (10:03:52): With makeup on.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:03:52): They had my sound machine on in the room with like a song on it. They had put makeup all--
HODA KOTB (10:03:58): Oh.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:03:58): My makeup drawer-- I have to lock it, I don`t know how.
HODA KOTB (10:04:01): So wait, you walked in, you were livid?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:04:03): Well, I took deep breaths.
HODA KOTB (10:04:03): What were you? You did?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:04:04): I took deep breaths.
HODA KOTB (10:04:05): Yeah. What did you do?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:04:05): I wasn`t livid, I was disappointed.
HODA KOTB (10:04:08): Oh, God.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:04:08): In fact, actually later in the night when we watched the President`s address with the democratic response--
HODA KOTB (10:04:14): Yeah.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:04:14): --Henry goes, with the democratic response, that was you, wasn`t it? Like disappointed parents.
HODA KOTB (10:04:20): Wagging your finger.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:04:22): I was a disappointed parent just like--
HODA KOTB (10:04:24): So what do you do? Okay. So how do you-- because I`m getting into the discipline thing. I don`t know what to do.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:04:29): Me neither.
HODA KOTB (10:04:30): So what did you do?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:04:30): So I said your toys are going to be taken out of your room. And they were like, no, mama, no.
HODA KOTB (10:04:36): Did they say sorry?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:04:37): They cried. Poppy said sorry. Mila, I think it`s the age.
HODA KOTB (10:04:41): Yeah. What did she say?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:04:41): Five-year-olds have a harder time, I don`t know, I`m acting like I`m an expert, saying they`re sorry. So she acted like her eye hurt and was crying, crying, crying. I was like, Mila, it`s fine. We`ll talk about it tomorrow. I left the room. She called me back and she said I just feel so bad. I know. And then I`m like you can have your toys.
HODA KOTB (10:04:58): Right.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:04:59): And more toys.
HODA KOTB (10:05:00): Eat ice cream, do whatever you want.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:05:01): But we took their toys out of their room.
HODA KOTB (10:05:03): You did? You really did it.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:05:04): I know.
HODA KOTB (10:05:04): I guess they say when you say something, you have to follow through because if you kind of do it then they know it`s a game.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:05:09): If it had just been them playing when I was home, and they hadn`t locked the door--
HODA KOTB (10:05:13): Yes, one thing.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:05:14): --it was the locking the babysitter out.
HODA KOTB (10:05:15): Out. You had to lay down the law.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:05:17): So I laid it down.
HODA KOTB (10:05:18): Okay. So Haley will throw her fork, her food, her bottle. And then I`ll pick it up and I`m going to go here`s your fork. Come on, let`s not throw it anymore.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:05:27): Yeah.
HODA KOTB (10:05:28): Now, what do you do right then, right then?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:05:30): Evidently--
HODA KOTB (10:05:31): Yeah.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:05:32): --because Poppy went through this phase.
HODA KOTB (10:05:32): Yeah. What--
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:05:33): What you do is you take them out of their high chair--
HODA KOTB (10:05:37): Oh.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:05:37): --where they were and they pick it up. You`re going to throw it, you`re going to pick it up.
HODA KOTB (10:05:40): You`re going to pick it up. Okay. So you don`t take it away and say, okay, no fork for you?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:05:45): Well, you could do that, too, probably.
HODA KOTB (10:05:46): Then they eat with-- yeah.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:05:46): But you have to eat.
HODA KOTB (10:05:48): Yeah, right, exactly.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:05:48): I think you say, okay, if you`re going to throw it, hold on, get out, you`ll go pick it up.
HODA KOTB (10:05:52): Okay. That`s good.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:05:53): And it may seem game-like at first but then they realize there`s like-- they don`t want to get out of their high chair every time to pick it up.
HODA KOTB (10:05:58): Right, right, right, right. So they stop throwing it.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:06:00): I don`t know. Does anybody know?
HODA KOTB (10:06:01): Okay. Go to Twitter.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:06:02): Do y`all know?
HODA KOTB (10:06:03): Because that`s where-- that`s where we find out all of our news. We`ll go to Twitter and tell us how you discipline two, three and four-year-olds in a way that they--
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:06:11): And five.
HODA KOTB (10:06:11): And five. Because you know what, all I kept thinking was I just want Haley to be, like, a good, like generous person.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:06:15): I know.
HODA KOTB (10:06:16): I don`t want her to think that everything is always about her.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:06:19): But you know what, I`ll say I was really disappointed, I felt sad.
HODA KOTB (10:06:23): Oh, you`re sad.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:06:24): And I got in and I said it to-- well, I mean, I said to them I felt sad.
HODA KOTB (10:06:27): Yeah.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:06:27): But I did. I felt like, am I parenting gone awry? Like are they mean girls to do this to a babysitter?
HODA KOTB (10:06:32): Yeah.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:06:32): And I got-- and Maria yesterday goes, dude, that`s awesome. What do you mean? She goes, I think-- well, she didn`t say dude. She was like--
HODA KOTB (10:06:40): Maria Shriver doesn`t say dude very often.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:06:42): Yeah.
HODA KOTB (10:06:43): What`d she say?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:06:43): She said I love that.
HODA KOTB (10:06:44): Why?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:06:45): I go why. That they`re doing that together. How awesome is it that they have, like, a little partner in crime. And I was like, oh, Maria.
HODA KOTB (10:06:52): Maria has way--
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:06:53): You`re right with everything.
HODA KOTB (10:06:53): --honestly of making everything seem less stressful.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:06:56): She`s right.
HODA KOTB (10:06:57): She`s right--
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:06:58): Like it was cool--
HODA KOTB (10:06:58): --about everything.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:07:00): --but not cool. All right.
HODA KOTB (10:07:00): All right. So the word is out. We now know the story about the Oscars. For the last several week, are you kind of over the Oscars story?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:07:07): I have fatigue.
HODA KOTB (10:07:08): I do, too. So we`re trying to figure out who`s going to host? Is it Kevin Hart? He said he`s sorry. He said he`s sorry. He said he`s sorry like fifteen times. Ellen was backing him. All the stuff happened. He finally came out and basically put a pin in it and saying he wasn`t going to, right?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:07:19): He said no. He`s not hosting. So this is for the first time in thirty years they will have no host. The Oscars will have no host.
HODA KOTB (10:07:25): Okay.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:07:25): But they say that celebrities will take turns emceeing introducing musical acts and other things like that.
HODA KOTB (10:07:31): Yeah. I think it-- I think people might like that. I think if it had a big, like, song and dance number at the top--
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:07:37): Yeah.
HODA KOTB (10:07:37): --it usually has everyone leaning in because everybody always says after the Oscars, I love that beginning music thing. And then afterwards, it got too long. So--
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:07:44): So they can get all the celebrities--
HODA KOTB (10:07:45): Yeah.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:07:45): --to do a little something.
HODA KOTB (10:07:46): Do something fun like just have some cool sketch, musical sketch and then dispense with it and then start giving the awards. And the funny-- the presenters are funny.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:07:53): I know.
HODA KOTB (10:07:53): When the people are serious, they`re serious.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:07:55): My first instinct was like it will make it shorter.
HODA KOTB (10:07:57): Yes.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:07:59): That might be good.
HODA KOTB (10:08:00): I think that might be good.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:08:00): It`s long.
HODA KOTB (10:08:02): It`s way too long.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:08:02): And we`re tired.
HODA KOTB (10:08:02): Have you seen any of the movies, by the way?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:08:04): No. I saw A Star Is Born--
HODA KOTB (10:08:05): A Star Is Born.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:08:06): --which I loved.
HODA KOTB (10:08:07): Loved. Right. Did you see--
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:08:08): Mary Poppins. Is that nominated?
HODA KOTB (10:08:10): I want to see that. I`m dying to see it.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:08:11): It`s so cute. Actually--
HODA KOTB (10:08:13): What?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:08:13): --maybe Haley would like it.
HODA KOTB (10:08:13): Haley would like that?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:08:14): If you could watch at home--
HODA KOTB (10:08:16): Okay.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:08:16): --so that she doesn`t take her shirt off like Poppy did.
HODA KOTB (10:08:18): So she did at the theater?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:08:20): Hm-Mm.
HODA KOTB (10:08:22): All right. So we`re guessing no opening monologue or anything at the Oscars, but it will be interesting to see.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:08:24): But whatever. You just said they should do an opening monologue--
HODA KOTB (10:08:28): I think it should be like a dance number.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:08:28): --montage.
HODA KOTB (10:08:30): Yeah. I think it should be a dance number.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:08:31): Okay. So there`s big news. Lady Gaga--
HODA KOTB (10:08:33): Yeah.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:08:34): --put something out on Twitter this morning. Again, how we get our news.
HODA KOTB (10:08:37): Yes.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:08:38): She talked about R. Kelly.
HODA KOTB (10:08:40): Yeah.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:08:41): She evidently did a song with him.
HODA KOTB (10:08:42): I didn`t even remember that she did that. But she did do one, and she was-- in hindsight, she said that she was upset that she had done that. She said she was-- she didn`t-- you know, was unaware of the allegations that were against him back then. She talked about her being a victim of sexual assault herself. So she wrote this. "I stand by these women one thousand percent. As a victim of sexual assault myself, I made both the song and the video at a dark time. I was angry and still hadn`t processed that trauma that had occurred in my own life."
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:09:11): Yeah. So they did this song in 2011.
HODA KOTB (10:09:14): Yeah.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:09:14): And that`s probably why we don`t remember it.
HODA KOTB (10:09:15): Yeah.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:09:16): It was a long time ago. And she said that she`s going to take it off iTunes.
HODA KOTB (10:09:19): Yeah. She doesn`t want it being sold. It`s funny when you`re in a dark time in your life, it`s amazing like when you think about- - forget them for a second, but who you allow in.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:09:29): Interesting.
HODA KOTB (10:09:29): It`s weird that way. And this is not that at all, but I remember-- and this is like-- but you realize when you were at a weak point what you invite into your life. You don`t even realize you`re doing it. And I remember, you know, after I had broken up with my boyfriend at the time, I was in a laundromat. I remember it because I was sitting on the floor at a laundromat and the clothes were, like, going around and around. And I was like feeling like my life was just going down a bad path. And a police officer walked in and he said are you okay? And I said, no, I`m not okay. And in that moment, he kind of rescued me.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:10:03): Aw.
HODA KOTB (10:10:03): And then I started dating him.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:10:05): Wait. What?
HODA KOTB (10:10:06): Yeah. But then I realized-- but then I realized that I don`t always need rescuing. And he`s a rescuer, right? So when I`m at a weak point, I brought someone into my life who was super strong.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:10:17): To save you, yeah.
HODA KOTB (10:10:18): To save you. And then you realize when you get strong again, that`s actually not your person.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:10:22): Yeah.
HODA KOTB (10:10:23): But I think at all times in our life, we`re out of balance, and we invite in the thing at that point in our life that we either feel we need to help us or that may hurt us more. You don`t know what you`re going to invite in. And then when you get to be yourself, strong together--
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:10:36): Yeah. You`re like why did I do that.
HODA KOTB (10:10:36): --you`re like wait. And then you feel bad because you`re like, wait, you know, this person, I don`t need to be saved every day.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:10:41): Yeah.
HODA KOTB (10:10:41): I`m not broken. And I think you learn that, like, when you go through stuff. So you wonder, when I think about, you know, Lady Gaga going through a terrible, traumatic time, you don`t know who you invite in during that moment.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:10:50): No. And maybe when you`re feeling vulnerable, you can`t listen to yourself. Like wait, should I be working with this person? You`re just like yes to everything without being discerning and realizing that you have value and that you don`t need to do every single thing.
HODA KOTB (10:11:03): And then they-- you know what`s funny because they always say-- and I think you have a great gut, and I`ve always liked that about you. But they always say trust your gut. But sometimes, I wonder like when you`re at a vulnerable place in your life, maybe your gut is off.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:11:14): Yeah. Should you?
HODA KOTB (10:11:15): Because at that point, you`re not yourself.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:11:17): Yeah.
HODA KOTB (10:11:18): You don`t know. Maybe you are, you know, making a bad choice.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:11:20): I like that she`s coming out, though, and saying enough is enough.
HODA KOTB (10:11:23): And that was that, of course, that docuseries and R. Kelly in it highlighted a bunch of allegations against R. Kelly saying that he physically, mentally and sexually abused women, and he denies all that stuff. Jada Pinkett Smith tweeted this, which I thought was interesting. She said "How is it that R. Kelly`s music sales have spiked substantially since the release of this docuseries Surviving R. Kelly? I need some help and understanding. What am I missing???"
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:11:53): What is she missing?
HODA KOTB (10:11:54): I don`t know.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:11:55): Because that is--
HODA KOTB (10:11:56): I don`t know why.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:11:57): Nobody should be supporting somebody--
HODA KOTB (10:11:59): Yeah.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:11:59): --that has had this record. I mean, he says it`s not true. But--
HODA KOTB (10:12:04): Yeah. He-- yeah. He denies all the allegations there haven`t been, you know, any charges against him. But anyway, he`s not been convicted of any of the crimes. All right.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:12:13): Okay. So other bad-- some other bad news. Yesterday, Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos and his wife, MacKenzie, announced they are divorcing after twenty-five years together although--
HODA KOTB (10:12:23): Yes.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:12:23): --I`ll say his announcement said it wasn`t bad news, that they`re going to stay friends and--
HODA KOTB (10:12:26): Yeah. It seemed like it was amicable. I mean, the way they-- the statement read.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:12:30): Yeah.
HODA KOTB (10:12:30): I mean, it is interesting because she was with him before Amazon, before everything, when he was a dreamer, when he dreamt of this crazy idea. And she said, I`m with you, I`m with you. And then you fast-forward twenty-five years later, and for some reason--
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:12:45): It didn`t work.
HODA KOTB (10:12:45): --you know, it didn`t work out. I was thinking about Terry Crews yesterday when he was saying that he got to this point. You wonder, like, do you go with the one who brung you? Do you stay with her or who knows what happened in that relationship?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:12:57): But I do love this thought.
HODA KOTB (10:12:59): What?
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:12:59): I know that both of us after Terry Crews was here, it`s like, oh, maybe we could be slightly more supportive. She`s like-- if somebody said to me, hey, would this look good, this type of business--
HODA KOTB (10:13:09): Yeah.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:13:09): --and you couldn`t even understand it and you`re like yes.
HODA KOTB (10:13:11): Can you imagine-- that`s called blind faith.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:13:13): Yeah.
HODA KOTB (10:13:13): That`s called believing in somebody because you trust them implicitly regardless of all the other stuff.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:13:18): Okay.
HODA KOTB (10:13:18): Oh, I guess we have to go. All right. In their statement though, Bezos said this, quote, "If we had known we would separate after twenty-five years, we would do it all again. Though the labels may be different, we do remain a family." So--
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:13:31): I love that.
HODA KOTB (10:13:31): --that`s a good way to--
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:13:32): I know.
HODA KOTB (10:13:32): --end that. All right.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:13:33): All right.
HODA KOTB (10:13:33): We`re going to put the final touches on our ambush ladies.
JENNA BUSH HAGER (10:13:36): Don`t miss the big reveal when they walk our red carpet.
HODA KOTB (10:13:39): Plus, we`ve got an Emmy and a Tony winner in the house. Oh, nothing, he`s with Donnadorable.
DONNA FARIZAN (10:13:42): Yes, we do. I`m with the one, the only Neil Patrick Harris. And since you are the star of The Series of Unfortunate Events, what is the most unfortunate mishap you`ve had on television?
NEIL PATRICK HARRIS (10:13:53): Oh, my. Well, I ripped my pants once on James Gordon. I was in my underwear once hosting the Oscars. But I could probably safely say it`s the next segment that we`re going to walk in.
DONNA FARIZAN (10:14:03): Hopefully you won`t rip your pants, coming up next.
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